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Re: Super Chet!

Postby Ray Bohlken » Fri Apr 25, 2014 10:19 am

Phil, you're correct. They did make a Deluxe Chet for a few years in the 70's. Here is a link to a photo of one.

http://www.gbase.com/gear/gretsch-chet- ... 974-cherry

L Mark, a buddy of mine had one of the Super Gretsch models like the ones in your link. It was a really nice guitar and I enjoyed playing it a little. Thanks for the link to the photos.
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Re: Super Chet!

Postby Gene1000 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:40 am

Mike, will do and will advise. Thanks for the tip.

Some years back, I spoke with Duke Kramer and purchased a few things from him including a gold Bigsby and a couple of Chet style tubular arms for the Bigsby. If there was ever anyone who was a major part of Gretsch history, it was Duke.
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Re: Super Chet!

Postby Mike Nye » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:18 am

Gene,

What might have also happened is someone may have backed off the trussrod adjustment too far, unthreading the trussrod. I remember this happening years ago, where it took several clockwise turns while wrapping the upper part of the neck with my knuckles while holding the instrument vertically. From what I remember the complaint was the trussrod rattled while playing the A and E strings. I can't say for sure what happened as my memory isn't too specific, but I think I got lucky and was able to get the rod threaded back into place.

Being I've never seen exactly how the trussrod itself is set into the neck as it's not visible, I'm not certain if the trussrod threads into the gearbox or into a threaded fixture somewhere under the string nut. Once glue deposits are cleaned from the neck tenon, you can see that they did a nice job pocketing the gearbox neatly into the neck.

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Re: Super Chet!

Postby Gene1000 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:45 pm

Mike, did as you suggested. The SC with the problem is indeed, about 1/8" higher when I insert the wrench as compared to the SC without the issue. I managed to scrape off a little residue inside the adjustment tunnel, down to the metal seat, but the difference in the height of the wrench is still about 1/8" or so.

As I indicated earlier, the gear seems to grab and then not grab. But the neck appears to adjust when I continued to turn the wrench a few days ago. As I turned it counterclockwise, the neck slowly began to straighten out. The only way to confirm that the adjuster is in fact working is to go back in there and tighten the nut and verify that the neck begins to bow back and over stress. For now, I'm going to hold off on doing this because right now it's pretty straight and I don't want to risk damage.

The next time I need to make an adjustment, I'll try tightening until (and if) the mechanism threads itself. If it does catch, then you will have been correct....and I will let you know. Too bad they don't make an X-Ray machine for guitar necks. Maybe I'll invent one and make millions...

Again, many thanks for you expertise and your time. For now, it's playing like a dream.
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Re: Super Chet!

Postby Mike Nye » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:23 pm

Gene1000 wrote:Mike, did as you suggested. The SC with the problem is indeed, about 1/8" higher when I insert the wrench as compared to the SC without the issue. I managed to scrape off a little residue inside the adjustment tunnel, down to the metal seat, but the difference in the height of the wrench is still about 1/8" or so.

THAT'S OK, as there are NO EXACT DIMENSIONS -just a guideline to determine if the key is actually engaging the gearbox nub

As I indicated earlier, the gear seems to grab and then not grab. But the neck appears to adjust when I continued to turn the wrench a few days ago. As I turned it counterclockwise, the neck slowly began to straighten out. The only way to confirm that the adjuster is in fact working is to go back in there and tighten the nut and verify that the neck begins to bow back and over stress. For now, I'm going to hold off on doing this because right now it's pretty straight and I don't want to risk damage.

THAT'S OK, as the trussrod is NOT ABSOLUTELY STRAIGHT. As you tighten or loosen the adjustment, it will bind and relax somewhat in the rod cavity as it pulls or relaxes the neck.

The next time I need to make an adjustment, I'll try tightening until (and if) the mechanism threads itself. If it does catch, then you will have been correct....and I will let you know. Too bad they don't make an X-Ray machine for guitar necks. Maybe I'll invent one and make millions...

From what you're now telling me, it appears that the trussrod is actually responding. The difference in turning resistance also may be due to the fact that the gearbox is not highly precision machined, it's designed to be just good enough for an occasional adjustment every so often.

Again, many thanks for you expertise and your time. For now, it's playing like a dream.


Good to hear everything is OK,
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Re: Super Chet!

Postby Doug Working » Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:44 pm

About that album cover. I remember as a boy listening to Chet's records while holding that cover in my hand and drinking every detail in my mind. I was a young boy filled with wonder trying to figure out how he made all those sounds come out of that instrument.

Nothing much has changed...
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